Thanks for this. I will go back and read the first 3 parts. I had and mostly still have only rudimentary knowledge of this, enough to know the claims that Israel stole the Palestinians lands and that it practices genocide and apartheid are bunk, but light on the details. Thanks again. More need to know this.
This is really good for this side of the post Resurrection Disporia, tho its also good to learn the Israelite history from Abraham forward tho Esp. 200BC onward to 135AD to get what happened there then to leading into the ongoing unfolding Judean peoples History...!
Then come to learn of the Kazarian "conversion" and that ongoing history...!
Yep it all will take many many hrs over days in dedicated time of truly important world history that needs to be understood....or one will continue to be lied to or believe misinformation and worse relevant intentional ommission from all sides...!
It is a maze and takes dedicated diligent research to get the most accurate all around view...!
Tho this part of the world and its people are the center of Scriptural Prophecy's unfolding as time goes on...!
"“The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. ... the ‘violent displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, and the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations"
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I don't know enough detail about the 1948 history to have an informed discussion about whether the 1946 "Nakba" was a little one or a big one. But, as a historian, what word would you use to describe what Israel has done to Gaza over the past 8 months? "Self Defense"?
Their plan brings to mind Tacitus’ quote: “They make a desert and call it peace.”
“... the Israeli Knesset voted overwhelmingly to thwart any effort to establish an independent Palestinian state … doubled down on Israel’s longstanding project of confining Palestinians in increasingly isolated and uninhabitable ghettos.” “… Israel appears dedicated to implementing a policy of “no day after” for the Palestinians in Gaza. … to the implementation of a genocidal policy that would render Gaza permanently uninhabitable. … undermining claims that the assault on Gaza is a targeted operation focused solely on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.”
“Dan Schueftan … explained, “Ground invasions should be carried out, perhaps under the banner of ‘harming enemy forces,’ but their real significance is the devastation they leave behind them. I don’t mind that as a pretext we claim that there is some military objective, because that’s required by all these International Law people, so we can bring in some lawyer to explain how to do it ...”
“Blaming Hamas for Israel’s destruction of Gaza is essential to the plan to replace it. … “Can Hamas be eliminated?” He emphasized that Israel’s destruction of Gaza was an essential component of the efforts to marginalize Hamas: “Once you make it clear that [Hamas] not only did not win, but that it has brought about a horrific catastrophe [there's that word Nakba!] upon itself, and also upon its people ... and when this ends with Hamas’s metaphorical and non-metaphorical corpse laying on the floor, robbed and finished off, this will have a very positive echo.”
Gaza is more than an echo of the Nazi's destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. When the German soldiers met stiff resistance from the Jewish freedom fighters, they burned the place down to the ground, along with most of it's civilian inhabitants. The few survivors were sent to concentration camps. I think the words "Holocaust" or "Nakba" or "Genocide" apply to the liquidation of both ghettos.
"Western writers call it ‘ethnic cleansing’, but not everyone agrees. ... As a historian, I tend to disagree as well."
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I don't know enough to have an informed discussion about this history. If you're interested, I've found the work of Jeremy Hammond to be well-reasoned and informed. He's published several books on the subject; his 49-page e-book "Benny Morris’s Untenable Denial of the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" is probably most relevant. https://www.jeremyrhammond.com I haven't read that book, but I have read his book,, "The War on Informed Consent" which was well-written.
How do you know when an Arab is lying? Their lips are moving.
It's why DemocRats lov'em for being "birds of a feather"...!!!
Thanks for this. I will go back and read the first 3 parts. I had and mostly still have only rudimentary knowledge of this, enough to know the claims that Israel stole the Palestinians lands and that it practices genocide and apartheid are bunk, but light on the details. Thanks again. More need to know this.
This is really good for this side of the post Resurrection Disporia, tho its also good to learn the Israelite history from Abraham forward tho Esp. 200BC onward to 135AD to get what happened there then to leading into the ongoing unfolding Judean peoples History...!
Then come to learn of the Kazarian "conversion" and that ongoing history...!
Yep it all will take many many hrs over days in dedicated time of truly important world history that needs to be understood....or one will continue to be lied to or believe misinformation and worse relevant intentional ommission from all sides...!
It is a maze and takes dedicated diligent research to get the most accurate all around view...!
Tho this part of the world and its people are the center of Scriptural Prophecy's unfolding as time goes on...!
Awesome, beyond in-depth study! Posting it all over social media!
"“The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. ... the ‘violent displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, and the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations"
. . .
I don't know enough detail about the 1948 history to have an informed discussion about whether the 1946 "Nakba" was a little one or a big one. But, as a historian, what word would you use to describe what Israel has done to Gaza over the past 8 months? "Self Defense"?
Today, Yaniv Cogan's posted a piece on Israel's “no day after plan” for Gaza https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-is-reviewing-a-proposal-to
Their plan brings to mind Tacitus’ quote: “They make a desert and call it peace.”
“... the Israeli Knesset voted overwhelmingly to thwart any effort to establish an independent Palestinian state … doubled down on Israel’s longstanding project of confining Palestinians in increasingly isolated and uninhabitable ghettos.” “… Israel appears dedicated to implementing a policy of “no day after” for the Palestinians in Gaza. … to the implementation of a genocidal policy that would render Gaza permanently uninhabitable. … undermining claims that the assault on Gaza is a targeted operation focused solely on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.”
“Dan Schueftan … explained, “Ground invasions should be carried out, perhaps under the banner of ‘harming enemy forces,’ but their real significance is the devastation they leave behind them. I don’t mind that as a pretext we claim that there is some military objective, because that’s required by all these International Law people, so we can bring in some lawyer to explain how to do it ...”
“Blaming Hamas for Israel’s destruction of Gaza is essential to the plan to replace it. … “Can Hamas be eliminated?” He emphasized that Israel’s destruction of Gaza was an essential component of the efforts to marginalize Hamas: “Once you make it clear that [Hamas] not only did not win, but that it has brought about a horrific catastrophe [there's that word Nakba!] upon itself, and also upon its people ... and when this ends with Hamas’s metaphorical and non-metaphorical corpse laying on the floor, robbed and finished off, this will have a very positive echo.”
Really? “they're [people of Gaza] angry. And sometimes some people will blame Hamas, but everybody knows who's bombing them. Everybody.” https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/on-the-record-with-hamas
Gaza is more than an echo of the Nazi's destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. When the German soldiers met stiff resistance from the Jewish freedom fighters, they burned the place down to the ground, along with most of it's civilian inhabitants. The few survivors were sent to concentration camps. I think the words "Holocaust" or "Nakba" or "Genocide" apply to the liquidation of both ghettos.
"Western writers call it ‘ethnic cleansing’, but not everyone agrees. ... As a historian, I tend to disagree as well."
. . .
I don't know enough to have an informed discussion about this history. If you're interested, I've found the work of Jeremy Hammond to be well-reasoned and informed. He's published several books on the subject; his 49-page e-book "Benny Morris’s Untenable Denial of the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" is probably most relevant. https://www.jeremyrhammond.com I haven't read that book, but I have read his book,, "The War on Informed Consent" which was well-written.